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		<title>By: Jim Huls</title>
		<link>http://reinventedsoftware.com/blog/2007/12/17/so-thats-why-it-was-called-pinprick/#comment-82379</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Huls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 23:17:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just checked this blog for the first time.  I'm another one of the MacZOT bundle buyers.  This really sounds like a therapy session...yes, I purchased KIT through MacZOT. ;)  Anyways I loved the app and still do.  That bundle was absolutely one of my, if not best purchase, on MacZOT ever.  KIT and Rooswitch were great apps in that bundle that I will honestly say should have made that bundle cost more.  After I received them and tried them out I really couldn't understand why the price had been so cheap.  I love bargains but that one was literally a steal.

Now as for the app itself I have to admit that I barely use it.  My problem is time, what I do and how I do it...not the app.  When I saw Together was released, it was all I could do to not upgrade.  Not because I can't use it but because of timing and xmas approaching.  I tend to buy quite a bit of shareware and with knowing MacHeist2 was coming and then there was MacUpdate's deal not to mention the occassional gem on MacZOT and MacUpdate's daily promo, I decided to wait.  Soon though, I'll be getting it.  I tried out the demo and really liked what I saw.

As someone who's considering to eventually get into the shareware thing as both a for fun thing with a little money out of it, I'm kinda curious how many hours a week you put into everything(programming, support, etc).  Do you do this as a fulltime thing or are you a programmer in the "real life" world?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just checked this blog for the first time.  I&#8217;m another one of the MacZOT bundle buyers.  This really sounds like a therapy session&#8230;yes, I purchased KIT through MacZOT. <img src='http://reinventedsoftware.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  Anyways I loved the app and still do.  That bundle was absolutely one of my, if not best purchase, on MacZOT ever.  KIT and Rooswitch were great apps in that bundle that I will honestly say should have made that bundle cost more.  After I received them and tried them out I really couldn&#8217;t understand why the price had been so cheap.  I love bargains but that one was literally a steal.</p>
<p>Now as for the app itself I have to admit that I barely use it.  My problem is time, what I do and how I do it&#8230;not the app.  When I saw Together was released, it was all I could do to not upgrade.  Not because I can&#8217;t use it but because of timing and xmas approaching.  I tend to buy quite a bit of shareware and with knowing MacHeist2 was coming and then there was MacUpdate&#8217;s deal not to mention the occassional gem on MacZOT and MacUpdate&#8217;s daily promo, I decided to wait.  Soon though, I&#8217;ll be getting it.  I tried out the demo and really liked what I saw.</p>
<p>As someone who&#8217;s considering to eventually get into the shareware thing as both a for fun thing with a little money out of it, I&#8217;m kinda curious how many hours a week you put into everything(programming, support, etc).  Do you do this as a fulltime thing or are you a programmer in the &#8220;real life&#8221; world?</p>
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		<title>By: corsa</title>
		<link>http://reinventedsoftware.com/blog/2007/12/17/so-thats-why-it-was-called-pinprick/#comment-79322</link>
		<dc:creator>corsa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2007 18:09:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi! I got KIT as part of the MacZOT bundle too, but I haven't upgraded yet. I found that I didn't really use KIT too much, mainly because I couldn't get into the habit of being more organized. :) Quite some time after getting KIT, I tried out Journler, but also stopped using that after a couple of days.

However, I'm now dedicated to using some sort of personal info manager, and I've narrowed it down to Together and Yojimbo. I just downloaded the trials of both over the weekend, and there are things about both that I like. So far, I prefer Together, but I really like the .mac sync ability in Yojimbo (although I haven't tried it yet.)

Anyway, you'll probably have another upgrader here in the next week or so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi! I got KIT as part of the MacZOT bundle too, but I haven&#8217;t upgraded yet. I found that I didn&#8217;t really use KIT too much, mainly because I couldn&#8217;t get into the habit of being more organized. <img src='http://reinventedsoftware.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> Quite some time after getting KIT, I tried out Journler, but also stopped using that after a couple of days.</p>
<p>However, I&#8217;m now dedicated to using some sort of personal info manager, and I&#8217;ve narrowed it down to Together and Yojimbo. I just downloaded the trials of both over the weekend, and there are things about both that I like. So far, I prefer Together, but I really like the .mac sync ability in Yojimbo (although I haven&#8217;t tried it yet.)</p>
<p>Anyway, you&#8217;ll probably have another upgrader here in the next week or so.</p>
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		<title>By: blogjunkie</title>
		<link>http://reinventedsoftware.com/blog/2007/12/17/so-thats-why-it-was-called-pinprick/#comment-77672</link>
		<dc:creator>blogjunkie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2007 02:28:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi! First of all I want to say that John Gruber has some amazing powers. He mentions this blog and a obscure promo from last year and almost everyone who bought KIT is here and commenting.

Well I'm another one of those people who bought the MacZOT bundle and subsequently upgraded to Together. I use it often to keep track of all my passwords and software registration codes.

The fact is that for users outside of US and UK, your software prices are 4 to 7 times in our respective currencies. I guess I just have to live with it, but that means that I'm much much more selective about what software I try out and then eventually buy.

While I think the MacZOT guys may be more interested in making money for themselves, you have to give them credit for achieving your original intention when participating in the bundle - promotion and publicity.

I would not have heard about KIT if it had not been on MacZOT. And I would not have then have upgraded to Together. Having considered Yojimbo and all the related junk drawer apps, I would probably have not bought ANY of them (including Together) if I didn't get to try them out in a bundle like MacZOT.

Anyway Steve, thanks for a great piece of software like Together. I really want to support you and the rest of the indie Mac developers, so I wish you all the best. Merry Christmas!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi! First of all I want to say that John Gruber has some amazing powers. He mentions this blog and a obscure promo from last year and almost everyone who bought KIT is here and commenting.</p>
<p>Well I&#8217;m another one of those people who bought the MacZOT bundle and subsequently upgraded to Together. I use it often to keep track of all my passwords and software registration codes.</p>
<p>The fact is that for users outside of US and UK, your software prices are 4 to 7 times in our respective currencies. I guess I just have to live with it, but that means that I&#8217;m much much more selective about what software I try out and then eventually buy.</p>
<p>While I think the MacZOT guys may be more interested in making money for themselves, you have to give them credit for achieving your original intention when participating in the bundle - promotion and publicity.</p>
<p>I would not have heard about KIT if it had not been on MacZOT. And I would not have then have upgraded to Together. Having considered Yojimbo and all the related junk drawer apps, I would probably have not bought ANY of them (including Together) if I didn&#8217;t get to try them out in a bundle like MacZOT.</p>
<p>Anyway Steve, thanks for a great piece of software like Together. I really want to support you and the rest of the indie Mac developers, so I wish you all the best. Merry Christmas!</p>
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		<title>By: Justin D. Morgan</title>
		<link>http://reinventedsoftware.com/blog/2007/12/17/so-thats-why-it-was-called-pinprick/#comment-77160</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin D. Morgan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 04:44:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm yet another macZOT purchaser that has upgraded to Together.

I had never heard of KIT before StoryZOT, and I am not sure if I would have tried KIT otherwise. You see, I had just paid around $25 to upgrade to the latest version of a competing product (that I had only tried due to a .Mac promotion the year before). But since that company's technical support was imploding, and their product kept crashing even after several updates, I tried KIT and never looked back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m yet another macZOT purchaser that has upgraded to Together.</p>
<p>I had never heard of KIT before StoryZOT, and I am not sure if I would have tried KIT otherwise. You see, I had just paid around $25 to upgrade to the latest version of a competing product (that I had only tried due to a .Mac promotion the year before). But since that company&#8217;s technical support was imploding, and their product kept crashing even after several updates, I tried KIT and never looked back.</p>
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		<title>By: Harvard Irving</title>
		<link>http://reinventedsoftware.com/blog/2007/12/17/so-thats-why-it-was-called-pinprick/#comment-77135</link>
		<dc:creator>Harvard Irving</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 01:23:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do find Gruber's position on this issue to be very strange. He screams bloody murder about MacHeist and MacZot - but then he promotes MUpromo and MacSanta on his site.

Why the double standard? Does he just have sand in his vagina?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do find Gruber&#8217;s position on this issue to be very strange. He screams bloody murder about MacHeist and MacZot - but then he promotes MUpromo and MacSanta on his site.</p>
<p>Why the double standard? Does he just have sand in his vagina?</p>
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		<title>By: Harvard Irving</title>
		<link>http://reinventedsoftware.com/blog/2007/12/17/so-thats-why-it-was-called-pinprick/#comment-77132</link>
		<dc:creator>Harvard Irving</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 01:15:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, how many of that 2.6% of upgraders would have purchased together if they hadn't been exposed to KIT in the first place because of the MacZot promotion?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, how many of that 2.6% of upgraders would have purchased together if they hadn&#8217;t been exposed to KIT in the first place because of the MacZot promotion?</p>
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		<title>By: TommyW</title>
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		<dc:creator>TommyW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 15:52:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another MacZot purchaser who upgraded to Together.

KIT did answer my needs for a while but it wasn't the program that I really needed and right now I feel pretty good that Together will grow to be just that.

I've purchased a lot of info managers, DTPO, VoodooPad, Notebook... I tried Yojimbo but given that I owned KIT I felt no need to transfer and my experience with Mailsmith had made me wary of the developer, no updates in years... 

Together is a marvellous update.  I love the drop tab and the pop out drawer.  That, the tagging and the landscape view... perfect for what I want. I've a few things I'd like to see but in time I guess.

I think developers don't need MacZot or the like.   Banding together a la MacSanta is definitely the way to go.  No harm in the odd promotion but no need for it to benefit a third party to the extent that MZ set up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another MacZot purchaser who upgraded to Together.</p>
<p>KIT did answer my needs for a while but it wasn&#8217;t the program that I really needed and right now I feel pretty good that Together will grow to be just that.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve purchased a lot of info managers, DTPO, VoodooPad, Notebook&#8230; I tried Yojimbo but given that I owned KIT I felt no need to transfer and my experience with Mailsmith had made me wary of the developer, no updates in years&#8230; </p>
<p>Together is a marvellous update.  I love the drop tab and the pop out drawer.  That, the tagging and the landscape view&#8230; perfect for what I want. I&#8217;ve a few things I&#8217;d like to see but in time I guess.</p>
<p>I think developers don&#8217;t need MacZot or the like.   Banding together a la MacSanta is definitely the way to go.  No harm in the odd promotion but no need for it to benefit a third party to the extent that MZ set up.</p>
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		<title>By: Victor Cajiao</title>
		<link>http://reinventedsoftware.com/blog/2007/12/17/so-thats-why-it-was-called-pinprick/#comment-77055</link>
		<dc:creator>Victor Cajiao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 14:22:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I  just upgraded from a MacZot deal. Nto because of them but becaue your software has been great. I simply had not taken the time to do so. This story made me get it together and take the time. I love your stuff and have said so many times on the podcast. Rock on!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I  just upgraded from a MacZot deal. Nto because of them but becaue your software has been great. I simply had not taken the time to do so. This story made me get it together and take the time. I love your stuff and have said so many times on the podcast. Rock on!</p>
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		<title>By: Dance</title>
		<link>http://reinventedsoftware.com/blog/2007/12/17/so-thats-why-it-was-called-pinprick/#comment-77054</link>
		<dc:creator>Dance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 14:18:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[from DF, not familiar with KIT] I think 41 out of 1536 is a bit misleading.... Lots of the 1536 probably never used your program and didn't affect your bottom line at all--they didn't increase your support costs, and they didn't wipe out a higher-priced sale you might have had otherwise. Can you track how many people contacted you for support on the bundle licenses, or how many of the bundle licenses bothered to download updates to KIT? Then you'll have a better sense of the true impact. Especially if you can measure upgraders against people who increased your support costs.

Great post, though, it's really nice to hear about the developer perspective like this. The comments, too, are really enlightening about the habits of software buyers.

I love bundles--I've bought three (not including yours), largely on spec, because I'm a cheapskate who likes to hoard software. I frequently don't use the software, so I've had no positive or negative effect on most of the developers (in my view, anyhow). One thing I have noticed--I'm much more willing to invest the time to set up a specialized program and see how it works, when I've already bought the program and I'm not on a time limit. I download a lot of trial versions that I never get around to installing. I also have a lot of non-bundled-paid-for software that I wind up not making full (or sometimes even partial) use of.

But if I'm contacting support at all (and I try to read Help first), I'm equally as demanding whether I'm on a trial version or a licensed version.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[from DF, not familiar with KIT] I think 41 out of 1536 is a bit misleading&#8230;. Lots of the 1536 probably never used your program and didn&#8217;t affect your bottom line at all&#8211;they didn&#8217;t increase your support costs, and they didn&#8217;t wipe out a higher-priced sale you might have had otherwise. Can you track how many people contacted you for support on the bundle licenses, or how many of the bundle licenses bothered to download updates to KIT? Then you&#8217;ll have a better sense of the true impact. Especially if you can measure upgraders against people who increased your support costs.</p>
<p>Great post, though, it&#8217;s really nice to hear about the developer perspective like this. The comments, too, are really enlightening about the habits of software buyers.</p>
<p>I love bundles&#8211;I&#8217;ve bought three (not including yours), largely on spec, because I&#8217;m a cheapskate who likes to hoard software. I frequently don&#8217;t use the software, so I&#8217;ve had no positive or negative effect on most of the developers (in my view, anyhow). One thing I have noticed&#8211;I&#8217;m much more willing to invest the time to set up a specialized program and see how it works, when I&#8217;ve already bought the program and I&#8217;m not on a time limit. I download a lot of trial versions that I never get around to installing. I also have a lot of non-bundled-paid-for software that I wind up not making full (or sometimes even partial) use of.</p>
<p>But if I&#8217;m contacting support at all (and I try to read Help first), I&#8217;m equally as demanding whether I&#8217;m on a trial version or a licensed version.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Harris</title>
		<link>http://reinventedsoftware.com/blog/2007/12/17/so-thats-why-it-was-called-pinprick/#comment-77002</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Harris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 06:49:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Curt - I notified Gruber of my error at the time I posted the correction, so hopefully that will get updated.

@LKM - FYI, the upgrade isn't installed via the normal update process and the app was renamed, there's no risk of overwrite your existing version. There are also measures to ensure your KIT library isn't affected. 

More info here:
http://reinventedsoftware.com/blog/2007/11/16/together-20-notes-for-kit-upgraders/

Also, KIT is still available for download, links on the Together pages.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Curt - I notified Gruber of my error at the time I posted the correction, so hopefully that will get updated.</p>
<p>@LKM - FYI, the upgrade isn&#8217;t installed via the normal update process and the app was renamed, there&#8217;s no risk of overwrite your existing version. There are also measures to ensure your KIT library isn&#8217;t affected. </p>
<p>More info here:<br />
<a href="http://reinventedsoftware.com/blog/2007/11/16/together-20-notes-for-kit-upgraders/" rel="nofollow">http://reinventedsoftware.com/blog/2007/11/16/together-20-notes-for-kit-upgraders/</a></p>
<p>Also, KIT is still available for download, links on the Together pages.</p>
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